If Lambeth truly were interested in improving the living environment then perhaps we could look at the amount of boilers pumping wasted energy and harmful co2 into the environment- impacting everyone. I am astonished by the poorly installed gas boilers that cannot condense as their flow temperature is too high. This is a hidden gem carefully avoided by all the boroughs in London. Given most properties need 8kw or less when it’s -2 outside ergo 4kw at 10 degrees outside why is it that boilers are installed by price and not efficiency and suitable for purpose ? Damage to the environment is real but you can’t pretend that one measure is for environmental purposes and continue to do global damage with another and pretend they are suitable . Too often I see pretence … I think it’s important that this is called out … what exactly is the policy ? As I’d expect a policy to have some depth …..
Fully agree… how do we fight them ? Do you know anyone who would stand up as Independent Councillor candidate to take a lead ? I am not in a position this year but happy to support.
Excellent letter, I totally agree with you. They have LTN in Southwark (I am my mum’s carer) and it’s a nightmare. My journey to her has doubled, I cannot just pop to the shops because I have to drive round the world to get there, but of course I should WALK, but the roads are so dark and quiet, I do not feel safe. If someone wants to do you harm the LTN roads are the places to do it.
Yep agree. Here in Dulwich 62 per cent of the area where (sic) against the LTN in Southwark council’s own ‘consultation’ yet it’s going ahead. Updated response: That should say 62pc were against the LTNs yet they are going ahead. Or should I say, they are staying, as it or rather they, are already here. You will need powerful help to fight it. Your best bet may be to enlist local businesses.
I’m sure it is Leon and if it did lead to loads more people cycling instead of driving that would be a big point in an LTN’s favour. Does anyone have any stats on how much that has happened in other LTNs? But if not I would be interested to hear from any cyclists as to whether they think it would make enough of an improvement for them to balance out the difficulties caused to others.
Leading Pro-LTN campaigner Upper Norwood responds with three separate ‘examples’ (Please see:
A tiny amount of prevented journeys may get longer but more will be stopped https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp7XucKRlQQ
I’m not sure I follow your logic. Short journeys being artificially made into long journeys will a)create more pollution and b)concentrate that pollution in the main roads for the residents of those main roads and all those shoppers/pedestrians/cyclists and others using them. The gridlocked traffic on those roads impacts emergency services, the illegal scooters currently seen will use the pavements putting pedestrians at further risk. We need to discourage the needless unnecessary short car journeys but not penalise those for whom the car journey is essential. The LTNs don’t achieve that in my view as they don’t differentiate between those with a valid reason and those that don’t. Those that live in the LTNs or nearby will even find other problems eg taxis will cost more as they navigate longer routes to access their address or they may be unwilling to enter these roads. The LTNs are in my view a very poorly thought out solution from councils too lazy to think of better ideas.
A person from Longthornton: Thank you for writing this letter Peter. I’m one such driver that lives in Mitcham but works in West Norwood and sometimes, I go via Valley Road when dropping my child to school on my way to work. It is a sad, but wholly accurate reflection of how constituents are (or aren’t) considered in such processes, although in fairness, residents around Longthornton were able to get one of the “traffic control measures” removed from outside Lidl on Rowan Road, so let’s live in hope that y/our voices will be listened to. Many thanks again for taking the time to construct the letter.
Even if the majority don’t “own” cars, ALL of us depend on cars to have things delivered to our homes or to our local stores. Stop being self righteous and pretending that you don’t make use of vehicles even if it’s indirectly.
If I thought LTNs were helping with overall emissions and pollution I would probably support them, though if the improvement was only marginal with no mitigation to the hardship caused to many it would still be a questionable policy. I am very happy to see any stats on the subject but I’m not particularly trusting about the methodology used. Considering the reports of increased traffic on Streatham High Rd. Leigham Court Rd. and Leigham Vale a reduction certainly doesn’t seem to be universal, and depending on the situation an LTN may push traffic onto immediate boundary roads or it may also draw traffic from boundary roads to elsewhere.
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